Potential For Public Domain Release of the Rules

David Jackson araborn at BELLSOUTH.NET
Sat May 8 01:38:33 CEST 1999

Alright, although I will put my name (and yours) on the revised edition,
what I envision myself doing is typing up the rules, and re-typesetting and
laying out the new version.  A lot of P&P's biggest problems came from a
very poor layout.


-----Original Message-----
From: Lyndon Liberty <lliberty at siscom.net>
Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 05:20 AngryBob
Subject: Re: Potential For Public Domain Release of the Rules

>David.  Go ahead and make the game, put my name on it, I'll take the fall,
>if there is one to take.....  I am sick of copyright people, and if they
>will not listen now, maybe they will then.....   Lyndon Liberty   6765 Deer
>Ridge Drive, Huber Heights, OH, 45424-1249    lliberty at siscom.net
>----- Original Message -----
>From: David Jackson <araborn at BELLSOUTH.NET>
>To: <POWERS-AND-PERILS at geo000.CiTG.TUDelft.NL>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 10:16 mliberty
>Subject: Re: Potential For Public Domain Release of the Rules
>> Perhaps you (and others) don't understand me.
>> What I would like to see is P&P revived.  Commercial release is not a
>> option.  I have tried contacting Hasbro in a dozen different ways, with
>> absolutely no success, in regards to purchasing the rights to P&P.  I
>> tried contacting them, urging them to release P&P into the public domain,
>> with no success.
>> The last recourse is to produce an unauthorized / unofficial second
>> which of course would be derivative of the first edition.  And I am
>> receiving staunch opposition to that here.
>> I guess my dream is of seeing a net version, completely free, of P&P.  A
>> version that we mold and form.  That we produce monster catalogs,
>> indexes, and campaign worlds for.  But, once again - that is an
>> impossibility.
>> It's just such a shame that I game that I personally love will be lost to
>> the annals of history because of the niggling copyright holders.
>> David Jackson
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul L. Ming <pming at YT.SYMPATICO.CA>
>> >Hiya.
>> >
>> >>Yeah, but what about a completely revised version, which is very
>> to
>> >>the original?  (Preserving the original spirit, perhaps even the same
>> basic
>> >>mechanics, but revised completely).
>> >
>> >    So you wan't a 2nd ed P&P that is "the same but different"?  ;-)
>> >it will boil down to is this: "Derivitive Works"  Just ask E. Gary
>> >Gygax...T$R tried to convince the courts that they (T$R) owned EGG's
>> >imagination.  The thing was "Because he created AD&D, every other
>> >RPG he creates will be derived from the same manner of thinking; thus, a
>> >derivitive work of AD&D."  Yes, they were on crack, but they also had
>> >of $$$.  The battle never came to a verdict...TSR simply "out monied"
>> >
>> >    Anyway, with P&P, I think the same sort of thing might be used if
>> Hasbro
>> >(they do own P&P now, right?) found out and actually cared.
>> >
>> >^_^
>> >
>> >Denakhan the Arch-Mage
>> >

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