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[Sylverrs_ dragon]

I believe all eight of the base characteristics, with appearance and
constitution, are essential. For characters in a role that demands surviving
on wits and quick witted response, eloquence is essential. What it would
seem the system may need is rules that highlight the in game applications of
various stats and, in the case of E, more skills for which it is essential.


>From: Albert Sales <drite_mi at YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: Powers and Perils Fantasy Roleplaying Game Mailing List
><POWERS-AND-PERILS at GEO.CITG.TUDELFT.NL>
>To: POWERS-AND-PERILS at GEO.CITG.TUDELFT.NL
>Subject: Re: E
>Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 03:57:40 -0700
>
>Physiological Psychology:
>     In the human brain, two centers control our formulation and
>understanding of the spoken word (our Eloquence). When they work well, our
>speach is limited to other factors such as vocabulary, diction, choice of
>words and usage. When there is a problem <in the Wyrnickie's or Brocca's>,
>we lose the ABILITY to formulate and express complex thoughts.
>
>Powers and Perils
>     Placing low emphasis on Eloquence is easy to address. In any situation
>where language comprehension (spoken or receptive) is a factor, allow no
>more use of Empathy (knowing what to and not to say intuitively) than the
>character has in Eloquence. This makes Eloquence seem to be doubly applied,
>and it would be. Because it is used so rarely, it is VERY important when
>needed. This would apply on all skills requiring Eloquence, influence
>rolls, LANGUAGES, and many performances. This should resolve using
>Eloquence as a low-stat dumping ground.
>
>Alex Koponen <akoponen at MOSQUITONET.COM> wrote:
>Eloquence is the least wanted ability in P&P. Except for acrobats,
>executioners, merchants and moneylenders Empathy is always to be preferred
>over Eloquence. Except in those four cases Empathy does everything that
>Eloquence does and more besides.
>I suppose that some might argue that Appearance plays a smaller role
>than Eloquence. For those with average appearance that is true. Those with
>bonuses or penalties to nearly every encounter because of Appearance may
>find that it is not true for them. Also Eloquence uses a maximum ability
>modifier that subtracts from the total of multipliers whereas Appearance's
>multiplier is rolled and has nothing to do with other multipliers.
>One finds that among experienced players there are very few cases in
>which the multiplier for E equal, let alone exceed, the multiplier for Em.
>In those cases the E native ability is larger than that of the Em. Indeed,
>the multiplier for E is often left at 1.5. If one is given the choice in
>rearranging the numbers rolled for abilities (a common houserule option)
>only those intending to specialize in acrobatics, executioner, merchant or
>moneylending would put a larger number in E Native Ability than in the Em
>Native Ability.

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