[PnP] Help...

[Choinski, Burton]

I hear Gurps is a good system.  I read the stuff youdid years ago on the
list but not sure if I read the cost stuff.  I recall you doing some basic
build rules and those I have and used up to this point.

 

Take a look at my construction rules again.  All of the costs for materials
are based on the time to gather them or construct them, times the labor
cost.  This makes sense in a medieval/ancient world mindset  



3) For each ship determine the quantity of raw materials (lumber).
Determine time in man-days to produce the raw materials and multiply by the
gatherer cost (foresters). 

That section is in my chart I did on every culture.  I mention the amount
of timber that is found in a resources column from poor, rare, good,
and excellent (like excellent would be Chosahi).  So I have a good idea how
to use this chart in my back brain right now.



Perhaps I was not clear.  I was talking materials required for the ship
(tons/boardfeet of lumber, gallons of pitch, yard of cloth or rope, etc),
not the resource level of the area.


Any advice on a typical price for a single beam ?  Maybe 5 BB to determine
the amount
of costs for a ship in that regard since wood is likely at LEAST 80-90% of
the cost.
Course if you have a forest you just cut down a tree and theres no cost but
....the
labor does play in that regard...as you mention above.  

 

Even though the trees are "free", there is always an indirect cost.  The
owner of the shipyard still has to pay for the labor involved in cutting the
wood and preparing it for construction use.  Even a king who orders some
schlub to do it "pays" indirectly in that the guy has to be at least fed,
and while doing that he is not doing his normal tasks that would otherwise
produce revenue for the kingdom.  By basing it all on the daily pay of the
workers we can abstract out the costs for these "free" trees, flax and hemp
plants.

 

Looking at my construction rules, a lumberjack making 2SC/month.  It was
figured that they can produce 100 square feet (1/2" thick) in 10 hours,
which has a cost for that quantity of 8BB.  That is 50 boardfeet of lumber,
or 4-1/6 cubic feet.  If you assume a 50' warship, the beam would be about
10', and the mast would be about 30'.  For a 1' diameter we are talking
close to 45 cubic feet of wood, which is about 11 times the above
construction quantity.  Ergo this would be 9SC and 110 man hours to produce.

 

Now granted, we are not slicing up the tree just to nail it together again,
so if we assume that the time is cut to 1/3rd, then so is the price.  Your
30' mast costs 3SC and takes 37 man hours to fell, clean the bark off smooth
and otherwise shape it to be a ship's mast. 

 

 

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