[PnP] The Goiden Project
Choinski, Burton
Burton.Choinski at matrixone.com
Fri Aug 5 15:43:58 CEST 2005
>From another site...
The Firbolg people are primordial inhabitants, or early gods, of Ireland.
The third wave of invaders, they conquered Ireland and defeated the
Fomorians <http://www.pantheon.org/articles/f/fomorians.html> . Initially
the name was thought to mean "men of the bags," after the bags they used to
escape oppression in Greece, but they are now mythologized from the Builg
and Belgae and other P-Celtic settlers. Within the Book of Invasions, they
take their name from Bolg/Bolga, an ancestor deity.
Fomorians
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In Irish-Celtic mythology, the Fomorians are a race of demonic giants,
ancient occupants of Ireland (or sometimes mentioned as a mythical,
prehistoric people who raided and pillaged Ireland from the sea). The first
to invade Ireland were the Partholons, but after many battles the Fomorians
afflicted them all with plague. After them came the Nemeds, who in their
very first battle were defeated and enslaved. The third wave of invaders,
the Firbolgs <http://www.pantheon.org/articles/f/firbolg.html> , were more
successful and they subdued the Fomorians and managed to live peacefully
with them.
After a period of peace, the Tuatha
<http://www.pantheon.org/articles/t/tuatha_de_danann.html> Dé Danann, the
Irish race of gods, arrived. They conquered the Firbolgs, but dealt more
subtly with the Fomorians, although they destroyed their hegemony over
Ireland for good in the second battle of Mag Tuireadh. The Fomorians were
given the province of Connacht, and were even allowed to marry some of the
Tuatha Dé. The king of the Fomorians is the one-eyed Balor
<http://www.pantheon.org/articles/b/balor.html> . Other prominent members
are: Bres <http://www.pantheon.org/articles/b/bres.html> , Eriu, and Tethra.
The Fomorians are sometimes mythologically associated with the powers of
nature which challenge man: fog, storm, winter, disease, crop-blight. The
name comes from fomó, "giant", "pirate".
Just historical notes for the list, but nice to see the origins of the lands
in text. :}
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From: Choinski, Burton [mailto:Burton.Choinski at matrixone.com]
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:08 AM
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Subject: RE: [PnP] The Goiden Project
Found on a site while trying to get more proto-celtic words to add to my
name generator:
Irish has its roots in the original language of the Celtic peoples who
emerged in south central Europe sometime around the 5th C. BCE. Theirs is
known to archeologists as the La Tene culture. The extension of this
proto-Celtic culture and language into virtually every region of Europe
accounts for the many branches of Celtic languages. Celts in western
continental Europe spoke Gaulish; Celts in Spain spoke Celtiberian; Celts in
the Balkans spoke Galatian; Celts in the region of modern Switzerland spoke
Lepontic.
All of these languages are now long extinct, as are most of the other
branches of proto-Celtic. Celts who migrated onto the western edge of the
known world spoke the Brythonic and Goidelic (also sometimes written
Gaidhdelic) forms of the Insular Celtic language family.
Bwahahahahah!
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From: Choinski, Burton [mailto:Burton.Choinski at matrixone.com]
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:16 AM
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Subject: RE: [PnP] The Goiden Project
How about "Fideoch Mountains". And the "Hills of Ghan"?
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From: Sylverrs_ dragon [mailto:abnaric at hotmail.com
<mailto:abnaric at hotmail.com> ]
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 3:46 PM
To: pnp at abroere.xs4all.nl
Subject: RE: [PnP] The Goiden Project
Turlach doesn't sing to me and Vassi might be confusing given the existence
of the Vassa elsewhere. Otherwise am cool with it.
>From: "Choinski, Burton" <Burton.Choinski at matrixone.com>
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>Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:44:00 -0400
>
>For regions I'm thinking "The Turlach Mountains" for the name of the range
>(still have to find and name the highest peak, perhaps "Siann Monag" -- the
>high peak is somewhat flatish and perhaps a sacred meeting point for the
>tribes). For the hills on the northwest shoreline "Hills of Vassi" and
>"The
>Donnag Highlands" for the hills just south of that (next to the Armagh).
>The highlands look to have a steeper eastern side ("Oghan Bluffs") and
>higher western part ("Diach's Rise").
>
>The Ulail forests could be "Faiolail Woodlands" and the other larger forest
>the "Faitheadh Forest" (implied: "Fai-" is a goidenese prefix meaning
>"Forest").
>
>The easternmost hills could be the "Laidh Hills", with a minor peak in
>there
>(that I can see on the texture) "Camac's Ridge" (possible site). The
>hills
>in the swamp could be "The Earmagh Highlands", with the southmost hills
>being "The Caoich Hills". A visible ridgeline seems to be there, "Adh Mac
>Cuir's Wall" (another site?).
>
>For the swamp we could have "The Olaireann Fens" in the portion between the
>rivermouths, and "The Olaireann Murks" for the hazy, misty depths of the
>swamps that brush up against the rugged mountains.
>
>
>Comments?
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sylverrs_ dragon [mailto:abnaric at hotmail.com
<mailto:abnaric at hotmail.com> ]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:26 PM
>To: pnp at abroere.xs4all.nl
>Subject: RE: [PnP] The Goiden Project
>
>Sound good
>
> >From: "Choinski, Burton" <Burton.Choinski at matrixone.com>
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> >Subject: RE: [PnP] The Goiden Project
> >Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:28:16 -0400
> >
> >I'm tossing out names to the list to chew on. I know I got Rich's
>blessing,
> >but I'd like everyone's (and his opinion). I wend out and found Gaelic
> >words for things that could be found on the island, and god names (plus
> >this
> >limited number of Goiden names in the culture book). Ran the list
>through
> >a
> >name generator and cherry-picked from the list presented.
> >
> >
> >
> >The rivers (in order from north to south, west side first, then the east
> >side):
> >
> > The Daonnach River (flows to the Armagh)
> >
> > The Ceimaonnag River
> >
> > The Feilbhinn River
> >
> > The Luiollach River
> >
> >
> >
> >For the forts:
> >
> > Ft. Bravabek (Noatun Isle)
> >
> > Ft. Tiun (Hoda Isle)
> >
> > Ft. Gin'cha (Sichi Isle)
> >
> > Ft. Eikassa (Baobhanu-11)
> >
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