[PnP] Weights and HP

[Scott Adams]

There is a fine line between playing and rule lawyering.  SFB was a 
classic game that got the lawyers going crazy.
I had at least 3 friends who argued over the fine points.  But did 
they just enjoy the game? Not really. They got too engrossed with 
dissecting the rules.

You points are totally valid and you are welcome to them.  I'm not 
staying you are wrong or right or a geek out of control :)

But this IS a fantasy game.  I've worked on 2 game designs (rpg) and 
3 (board game designs).  One migh think its a easy task.  Its 
not.  You have to be so organized it makes you crazy.  You forget 
that one detail and the whole house of cards falls.

With that said...

I tend to lean on the Clash of Titans mythos.  That classic scene 
where the god takes the clay statue and forms a person or beast from 
it by placing it in a place iconic to earth.  Ergo Gods createt 
hings.  If God X wanted to have a Square 2d monster with no eyes but 
300 tongues then so be it.  Their magic if you will binds that 
beast.  I know.  This is cheating.  But it makes sense.

Are we going to argue over a sword that glows and eats souls or argue 
over a talking dragon just because monsters should be stupid or argue 
over size?

One has to suspend common sense when you play these games.
No offense to you seriously.

I have many common sense logic stuff in pnp but I just sit and enjoy 
it.  Richard may have talked to us about the size stuff years ago.  I 
saved a tons of his comments on such things to Alex.  I can check 
later on that.

I think we just have to pick and choose our fights.
so..easy..start you game pbem.  I'll join then we can see what you 
decide.  Seriously I'd love to play! :)

I don't have other compute ron so can't check the files but i seem to 
recall years ago ALOT of Size talk issues.


At 10:35 PM 7/22/2015, you wrote:
>I've been bothered by something (well, several something's you will 
>discover) in the game and I thought I would research it and let you 
>know the results.  Yes...I am totally geeking out on this.
>
>The weights of creatures like the Giants has never made sense to 
>me.  I work in the Engineering world.  I think the giant weights are 
>WAY off.  Here's why...
>
>Assume a 6' human weighs 200 pounds.  This is not out of the 
>question since I am less than 6' and weigh more.  Sure, it's not all 
>muscle, but let's not quibble. Stop laughing.
>
>Anyway, if a giant is twice the height of a man, he is going to be 
>twice the height, twice the width, and twice the depth.  Instead of 
>simply doubling the human's weight, it should go up by the cube of 
>the height multiplier...in other words...two to the third power...or 
>eight, in this case.  For the others, multiply the ratio of giant 
>height to 6', and multiply that result by itself, then again by the 
>same amount.
>
>To make it easier...here's some pre-done calcs.
>
>6' guy - 200#
>9' guyant...er...giant...675#
>10' giant - 925#
>12' giant - 1600#
>16' giant - 3800# (forest giant, earth giant)
>18' giant - 5400# (this is the size of a small SUV!)(hill giant, storm, fire)
>20' giant - 7400# (frost giant)
>22' giant - 9400# (mountain giant)
>24' giant - 12,800#
>30' giant - 25,000#!!!
>
>Now, all of this assumes the giant creatures proportions are equal 
>to a human's...some of the Giants, like ogres, are going to be 
>proportionately larger...so their weight should go up.
>
>Now...think about what this means when a punk-a$$ character is 
>trying to kill a giant.
>
>Think about an 18-footer and how thick his bones are...are you 
>thinking you are gonna chop his leg off?  Really?  His ankle is 
>going to be about a foot thick...and his leg twice that. Minimum.
>
>Also...does this make the HP of some of the creatures seem 
>underwhelming?  If a 30' giant is 25,000#, how much does a dragon 
>weigh...and how many HP does 25k pounds mean?
>
>Dave Sanders...a guy with just a bit too much free time on his hands 
>lately...stop laughing...
>
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