[PnP] pnp Digest, Vol 133, Issue 15- a grammar note
Scott Adams
longshotgm at comcast.net
Wed Sep 6 08:50:11 CEST 2017
Cool. We do appreciate the work you've done on the site nad pdfs. I
personally am old school like text since its easy to find,
cut/paste stuff.
But I'm a fossile :)
But yeah the notes were done for me for cheat so I didn' thave to
find stuff which took longer.
I don't mind my notes out there for public use just with exception it was
done in 90s with no format and spell checking and for personal use only. ;)
Its like my gm screen file I typed up the entire gm screens then as
well. So I didn' tneed ot find the screens.
I also have generic notes on overall game thathelped out.
Ahh for such free times as in college. Now I'd kill for such free time. ;)
But thanks wout for your work.
At 01:25 AM 9/6/2017, you wrote:
>I have those notes, but in the end I scanned and OCR'ed books 3 and
>4 to get the base for the new edition. Still, the OCR is not perfect
>and I do find some things that are not perfect.
>
>Problem is there are so many errata and remarks from Richard over
>the list indicating small changes, that I sometimes lose track of
>what is an intended change and what is a scan+OCR mistake.
>
>Wout
>
>On 06-09-17 03:16, Scott Adams wrote:
>>Hope you didn't use m book 4 cheat notes file. I made it in '90s
>>Didn't even care to spell check it.
>>But I use it for quick reference. I did look online for book 4 and
>>think i saw it.
>>But ignored it.
>>Its not for public really. ;)
>>Was spur of moment 30 years ago.
>>
>>At 04:42 PM 9/4/2017, you wrote:
>>>I have changed this to
>>>"Where the parent is inimical, the character is always sired by a
>>>non-human father."
>>>
>>>Found a few typo's/scan erros in the NMI section and have
>>>corrected those. If anyone else has textual chnges/corrections,
>>>please let me know.
>>>
>>>Wout
>>>
>>>On 29-11-16 22:35, Bessie Hadley wrote:
>>>>"Where a Sire is inimical, the father is always the Sire." Sire
>>>>means "father, or male parent." Can that be made less awkward, or
>>>>maybe we need to rephrase it another way - gave me a double-take
>>>>& a giggle (tch, tch). Thanks for the information anyway.
>>>>
>>>>Bess L. Hadley
>>>>--------------------------------------------
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>>>> Subject: pnp Digest, Vol 133, Issue 15
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>>>> Date: Tuesday, November 29, 2016, 3:00 AM
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>>>> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:47:40 -0500
>>>> From: Scott Adams <longshotgm at comcast.net>
>>>> To: pnp at list.powersandperils.org
>>>> Subject: [PnP] Half Breeds
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>>>> Ok guys. Richard is our God and never makes no
>>>> mistakes. Its lowly
>>>> humans who mis read and interpret these wonderful world of
>>>> P&P.
>>>>
>>>> First I've been making great progress on my ship project
>>>> after years
>>>> of idle time. i've cut down the data to half. A
>>>> big step. :) More
>>>> work I've done this last couple months in years.
>>>>
>>>> Second I'm also in my spare time (hour there and here)
>>>> working on
>>>> a pc generator. I did one years ago but its outdated.
>>>>
>>>> I've come up with this confusing thing...half breeds.
>>>> We may dislike
>>>> them and think it stupid. But we still need to figure
>>>> it out.
>>>>
>>>> Recap: Normally we are Human, Dwarf, Elf, Faerry.
>>>>
>>>> So heres the rule:
>>>>
>>>> HALFBREEDS (OPTIONAL)
>>>>
>>>> There are other races that can have viable
>>>> offspring with
>>>> humans. The result of such unions is
>>>> halfbreed characters
>>>> that may share some or all of the talents
>>>> of their non-human
>>>> sire. If the race is beneficent, the
>>>> initial training of the
>>>> character depends on the sex of his
>>>> mother. If she is human,
>>>> he is raised human. If not, he is raised
>>>> non-human.
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Let's break that down.
>>>> 1. First line other races with humans = half
>>>> breed.
>>>> So this means a rampaging goblin
>>>> Human. It doesn't mention
>>>> Elf/Faerry. (DWarves we learn
>>>> later can't have half breeds).
>>>> 2. So next big part is share genetics from non
>>>> human (X) and Human
>>>> again restricting it to Human only.
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> Where the sire is inimical, the sire is always the father.
>>>> In most
>>>> cases, the mother dies giving birth to him and he is
>>>> fostered to
>>>> another human family. No other possibility leaves a
>>>> character extant
>>>> to be played.
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Last line could be seen differently as your either a half
>>>> human or
>>>> nothing else.
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>> NOTE - I only mention those races whose breeding with humans
>>>> can
>>>> possibly yield a playable character. Among those I omit are
>>>> the
>>>> children of daivas, drugas and high caste Korchi. The first
>>>> two
>>>> are automatically daivas or drugas. The last is rarely found
>>>> outside
>>>> Korchi territory (unless conquering someone).
>>>> ----
>>>> So richard seems to imply that his chart below is only for
>>>> human and
>>>> X mixes. So again this implies no Elf/Faerry.
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>> BEING A HALFBREED
>>>> Because Characters are exceptional
>>>> members of their
>>>> race a player who
>>>> wishes to try for this attribute has
>>>> a 10% chance of
>>>> having a halfbreed character UNLESS his
>>>> character is a Dwarf.
>>>> There are no Dwarf halfbreeds.
>>>> If the Character is a halfbreed the
>>>> Referee may assign
>>>> the non-human parent
>>>> based on where the campaign is
>>>> starting. If he does
>>>> not choose to do so, roll on the
>>>> Breeding Races table.
>>>> Once the race is determined, roll
>>>> 1D2 for the non-human
>>>> parents sex if necessary. The
>>>> parent's sex will affect
>>>> the Character's starting
>>>> knowledge and other
>>>> factors.
>>>> -------
>>>> So we see here Dwarves can't be half breeds. Yet we
>>>> read above it
>>>> implies that only humans can be such? Huh?
>>>> So Ref can figure out non human parent implying possible
>>>> Elf/Faerry?
>>>> Then h ementions the d2 for non human parent which brings us
>>>> back to
>>>> one must be human.
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> BREEDING RACES (Roll D100)
>>>> ROLL RACE
>>>> ROLL RACE
>>>> ROLL RACE
>>>> 01 Alfar
>>>> 24-30 Nymph
>>>> 76-79 Trazire
>>>> 02+03 Incubus* 31-35
>>>> Faerry 80-82 Sernemu
>>>> 04+05 Pseudothei* 36-42
>>>> Jinn 83-86 Devil*
>>>> 06+07 Anwora*
>>>> 43-48 Demon*
>>>> 87-90 Whisper
>>>> 08-10 Daoine Sidhe* 49-55 Elf
>>>> 91-93 Seirim*
>>>> 11-13 Vily
>>>> 56-58 True Sidhe 94+95 Lunafey
>>>> 14-16 Troll* 59-64
>>>> Nar'morel 96+97 Eld Troll*
>>>> 17-20 Baobhan
>>>> 65-67 Romati
>>>> 98+99 Fusin
>>>> 21-23 Mir
>>>> 68-75 Goblin*
>>>> 100 Green Lady
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> So I see Flf in table. Human/Elf fine.
>>>> But why not a Elf-Vily?
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> * These races are always the FATHER in the union. In some
>>>> cases this
>>>> is because only males exist. For others, the child with that
>>>> race as
>>>> mother does not yield a playable character.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So....
>>>>
>>>> Are there Human / X Half breeds only?
>>>>
>>>> Why does he say no Half-Dwarves if its only
>>>> humans?
>>>>
>>>> That would imply a Elf / X or Faerry / X
>>>>
>>>> If that Dwarf wasn't there I'd say its only
>>>> Human / X.
>>>> But that also seems unfair. Why can't a
>>>> Elf and Demon
>>>> mix?
>>>>
>>>> Wout seems to agree with me that the wording
>>>> needs work.
>>>>
>>>> How do you follow these rules. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> So I can code it. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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