[PnP] pnp Digest, Vol 133, Issue 15- a grammar note

Scott Adams longshotgm at comcast.net
Wed Sep 6 08:50:11 CEST 2017


Cool.  We do appreciate the work you've done on the site nad pdfs.  I 
personally am old school like text since its easy to find,
cut/paste stuff.
But I'm a fossile :)
But yeah the notes were done for me for cheat so I didn' thave to 
find stuff which took longer.
I don't mind my notes out there for public use just with exception it was
done in 90s with no format and spell checking and for personal use only. ;)
Its like my gm screen file I typed up the entire gm screens then as 
well.  So I didn' tneed ot find the screens.
I also have generic notes on overall game thathelped out.
Ahh for such free times as in college. Now I'd kill for such free time. ;)
But thanks wout for your work.




At 01:25 AM 9/6/2017, you wrote:
>I have those notes, but in the end I scanned and OCR'ed books 3 and 
>4 to get the base for the new edition. Still, the OCR is not perfect 
>and I do find some things that are not perfect.
>
>Problem is there are so many errata and remarks from Richard over 
>the list indicating small changes, that I sometimes lose track of 
>what is an intended change and what is a scan+OCR mistake.
>
>Wout
>
>On 06-09-17 03:16, Scott Adams wrote:
>>Hope you didn't use m book 4 cheat notes file.  I made it in '90s
>>Didn't even care to spell check it.
>>But I use it for quick reference.  I did look online for book 4 and 
>>think i saw it.
>>But ignored it.
>>Its not for public really. ;)
>>Was spur of moment 30 years ago.
>>
>>At 04:42 PM 9/4/2017, you wrote:
>>>I have changed this to
>>>"Where the parent is inimical, the character is always sired by a 
>>>non-human father."
>>>
>>>Found a few typo's/scan erros in the NMI section and have 
>>>corrected those. If anyone else has textual chnges/corrections, 
>>>please let me know.
>>>
>>>Wout
>>>
>>>On 29-11-16 22:35, Bessie Hadley wrote:
>>>>"Where a Sire is inimical, the father is always the Sire." Sire 
>>>>means "father, or male parent." Can that be made less awkward, or 
>>>>maybe we need to rephrase it another way - gave me a double-take 
>>>>& a giggle (tch, tch). Thanks for the information anyway.
>>>>
>>>>Bess L. Hadley
>>>>--------------------------------------------
>>>>On Tue, 11/29/16, pnp-request at list.powersandperils.org 
>>>><pnp-request at list.powersandperils.org> wrote:
>>>>   Subject: pnp Digest, Vol 133, Issue 15
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>>>>   Date: Tuesday, November 29, 2016, 3:00 AM
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>>>>      1. Half Breeds (Scott Adams)
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>>>>   Message: 1
>>>>   Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:47:40 -0500
>>>>   From: Scott Adams <longshotgm at comcast.net>
>>>>   To: pnp at list.powersandperils.org
>>>>   Subject: [PnP] Half Breeds
>>>>   Message-ID: <mailman.2.1480417201.26488.pnp at list.powersandperils.org>
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>>>>
>>>>   Ok guys.  Richard is our God and never makes no
>>>>   mistakes.  Its lowly
>>>>   humans who mis read and interpret these wonderful world of
>>>>   P&P.
>>>>
>>>>   First I've been making great progress on my ship project
>>>>   after years
>>>>   of idle time.  i've cut down the data to half.  A
>>>>   big step. :)  More
>>>>   work I've done this last couple months in years.
>>>>
>>>>   Second I'm also in my spare time (hour there and here)
>>>>   working on
>>>>   a pc generator.  I did one years ago but its outdated.
>>>>
>>>>   I've come up with this confusing thing...half breeds.
>>>>   We may dislike
>>>>   them and think it stupid.  But we still need to figure
>>>>   it out.
>>>>
>>>>   Recap: Normally we are Human, Dwarf, Elf, Faerry.
>>>>
>>>>   So heres the rule:
>>>>
>>>>   HALFBREEDS (OPTIONAL)
>>>>
>>>>      There are other races that can have viable
>>>>   offspring with
>>>>      humans. The result of such unions is
>>>>   halfbreed characters
>>>>      that may share some or all of the talents
>>>>   of their non-human
>>>>      sire. If the race is beneficent, the
>>>>   initial training of the
>>>>      character depends on the sex of his
>>>>   mother. If she is human,
>>>>      he is raised human. If not, he is raised
>>>>   non-human.
>>>>
>>>>   ----
>>>>   Let's break that down.
>>>>     1.  First line other races with humans = half
>>>>   breed.
>>>>         So this means a rampaging goblin
>>>>   Human.  It doesn't mention
>>>>         Elf/Faerry.  (DWarves we learn
>>>>   later can't have half breeds).
>>>>     2.  So next big part is share genetics from non
>>>>   human (X) and Human
>>>>         again restricting it to Human only.
>>>>   ------
>>>>
>>>>   Where the sire is inimical, the sire is always the father.
>>>>   In most
>>>>   cases, the mother dies giving birth to him and he is
>>>>   fostered to
>>>>   another human family. No other possibility leaves a
>>>>   character extant
>>>>   to be played.
>>>>
>>>>   -----
>>>>   Last line could be seen differently as your either a half
>>>>   human or
>>>>   nothing else.
>>>>
>>>>   ------
>>>>   NOTE - I only mention those races whose breeding with humans
>>>>   can
>>>>   possibly yield a playable character. Among those I omit are
>>>>   the
>>>>   children of daivas, drugas and high caste Korchi. The first
>>>>   two
>>>>   are automatically daivas or drugas. The last is rarely found
>>>>   outside
>>>>   Korchi territory (unless conquering someone).
>>>>   ----
>>>>   So richard seems to imply that his chart below is only for
>>>>   human and
>>>>   X mixes.  So again this implies no Elf/Faerry.
>>>>
>>>>   ------
>>>>   BEING A HALFBREED
>>>>       Because Characters are exceptional
>>>>   members of their
>>>>            race a player who
>>>>   wishes to try for this attribute has
>>>>            a 10% chance of
>>>>   having a halfbreed character UNLESS his
>>>>            character is a Dwarf.
>>>>   There are no Dwarf halfbreeds.
>>>>       If the Character is a halfbreed the
>>>>   Referee may assign
>>>>            the non-human parent
>>>>   based on where the campaign is
>>>>            starting. If he does
>>>>   not choose to do so, roll on the
>>>>            Breeding Races table.
>>>>   Once the race is determined, roll
>>>>            1D2 for the non-human
>>>>   parents sex if necessary. The
>>>>             parent's sex will affect
>>>>   the Character's starting
>>>>             knowledge and other
>>>>   factors.
>>>>   -------
>>>>   So we see here Dwarves can't be half breeds.  Yet we
>>>>   read above it
>>>>   implies that only humans can be such? Huh?
>>>>   So Ref can figure out non human parent implying possible
>>>>   Elf/Faerry?
>>>>   Then h ementions the d2 for non human parent which brings us
>>>>   back to
>>>>   one must be human.
>>>>
>>>>   -----
>>>>   BREEDING RACES (Roll D100)
>>>>   ROLL   RACE
>>>>   ROLL   RACE
>>>>      ROLL  RACE
>>>>   01     Alfar
>>>>      24-30  Nymph
>>>>   76-79 Trazire
>>>>   02+03  Incubus*      31-35
>>>>   Faerry     80-82 Sernemu
>>>>   04+05  Pseudothei*   36-42
>>>>   Jinn       83-86 Devil*
>>>>   06+07  Anwora*
>>>>      43-48  Demon*
>>>>      87-90 Whisper
>>>>   08-10  Daoine Sidhe* 49-55  Elf
>>>>       91-93 Seirim*
>>>>   11-13  Vily
>>>>   56-58  True Sidhe 94+95 Lunafey
>>>>   14-16  Troll*        59-64
>>>>   Nar'morel  96+97 Eld Troll*
>>>>   17-20  Baobhan
>>>>      65-67  Romati
>>>>      98+99 Fusin
>>>>   21-23  Mir
>>>>      68-75  Goblin*
>>>>   100   Green Lady
>>>>
>>>>   ----
>>>>   So I see Flf in table. Human/Elf fine.
>>>>   But why not a Elf-Vily?
>>>>
>>>>   -----
>>>>   * These races are always the FATHER in the union. In some
>>>>   cases this
>>>>   is because only males exist. For others, the child with that
>>>>   race as
>>>>   mother does not yield a playable character.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       So....
>>>>
>>>>       Are there Human / X Half breeds only?
>>>>
>>>>       Why does he say no Half-Dwarves if its only
>>>>   humans?
>>>>
>>>>       That would imply a Elf / X or Faerry / X
>>>>
>>>>       If that Dwarf wasn't there I'd say its only
>>>>   Human / X.
>>>>       But that also seems unfair.  Why can't a
>>>>   Elf and Demon
>>>>       mix?
>>>>
>>>>       Wout seems to agree with me that the wording
>>>>   needs work.
>>>>
>>>>       How do you follow these rules.  Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>       So I can code it. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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