At 06:37 AM 11/12/03 -0500, you wrote: >Experience and expertise is received for all points inflicted. So you give it for the subdual end of it not the physical damage? Longshot - ZC of AdventureNet International Echomail Network Fringe BBS - EWOG II - 904-733-1721 Telegard / Allfix Beta Site Website: http://users.cybermax.net/~longshot ICQ: 24436933