[PnP] Diamonds Are Forever

[J Hooten]

Scott Adams wrote:

>At 07:12 PM 10/12/05 -0500, you wrote:
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>>Play test?
>>I am currently trying a game with the PnP2 rules.
>>The changes are small in most places but interesting.
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>I've not studied them in depth.  Can't seem to find my b2 pdfs so gotta
>track them down and study them when i can.  I have a pdf->text version so
>that'll do me well.  I've skimmed them and will likely compare as I go.  It
>would be nice if someone did an article on the various changes :)
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>>Characters can start with far more money ;)
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>Cool.  Will look at that.
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>>I love the new spells, Archery Powers is very useful.
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>That was one of mine. Heres a secret.  I saw those spells in Diablo (Video
>game) and so loved it.  Adapted it for pnp :) I did well over *100* new
>spells.  Those articles are in the list and probably website somewhere.
>Some silly, some powerful and some good ones.  Compilation of spells
>players and myself hav ecome up with over the past 2 decades.  In fact I'm
>working on a spell article specifically for ship and water based use.  Got
>about 50 so far.  But likely not much more.  :)
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Magic is my favorite part of PnP, few systems allow a mage to make 
useful items at a low level.

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>>Tree of Souls has a CDF of 500, I am sure that is wrong?
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>I believe me and Richard talked about that in the list a year or so ago.  I
>thought it was a huge thing.  Just like the super dragon what's his face in
>the new creature set.  (Forget his name).  But based on the description it
>fits.  Course if your likely to win a battle with it then wowsers!
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Sure it has defenders and it can result in being hunted etc.
But what it does to expertese in a weapon is far worse than the combat 
experience.
I am trying to find the rules, I recall trees are hard to hurt with 
weapons. A bow may do nothing for example. A minimum damage may be 
needed but NAV is that too. I know axes do full damage and fire does 
extra in general.
And this tree can do a lot of damage from all its vine attacks which is 
why bows doing nothing is important.
*sigh* I had planned on having 9 of them replacing a sacred grove circle 
as part of the story, now that seems way too much!
The fighter may still win though as he has good magic armor making the 
vine strikes less dangerous.
If it is too easy he gets way to much expertese and experience as do 
anyone else involved that can hurt them.
So I better rethink it very carefully

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>>I am still a firm believer that 100x for magic weapons is way off, it 
>>takes the same Mana to do a dagger or a greatsword, yet the price is 30 
>>times as much.
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>Never thought of it.  But these are market prices.  Making one yourself
>which i have one character in my pnp pbem game now making tons of stuff is
>cheap.  but Buying one from Joe's Magic Shop is steep cause it tends to be
>1) rare 2) unique and 3) hard to push (get rid of).
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>>Armor is far worse as magic plate costs thousands giving the mage a 
>>really good pay rate.
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>I'm a firm believer in Balance.  I do everything with Balance.  Alex knows
>this best :)  But if a Super +30 Weapon is made then theres likely some
>drawback.  If there is a Time Travel action to stop the evil bad guys from
>doing something then maybe the Balance will affect the new timeline and
>make things worse.  So for armor there is Armor AV reduction and breakage.
>Theres having armor stolen.  Among many other options :)
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>>I have been trying to think up a system to base costs on power used and 
>>effort, but I dont like the results so far.
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>You do know of the Magic Creation costs right?  In the errata?
>Look at other game systems.  Plenty of games to compare.
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I use that for magic prices in general, based on mel+el times a factor. 
It isnt a bad basis but it would have been nice to see all the natural 
magics priced as they are hard to fit into that formula.

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