[PnP] pnp Digest, Vol 121, Issue 1-Magic Items value
Bessie Hadley
eleabess at sbcglobal.net
Wed Oct 14 20:28:43 CEST 2015
To Mailing List Members,
As I (thought I had) clearly stated in my original email, I need to find where the value of Magical Items (such as wands and talismans) can be determined. I stated I already knew how to figure the value of Natural Magic Items, so I don't need that information (found it on P&P wesite)
I need the information on man/creature-created Magical Items. I found it somewhere in my P&P books, but cannot find it now. Where in the four books, or Book of Tables is it found? Can you please, please help me? I keep looking & not finding it.
Sorry about the confusion - I thought I was clear.
Still hoping for an answer,
Bess L. Hadley
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Today's Topics:
1. Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items (Wout Broere)
2. Re: Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items
( Thomas O. Magann Jr.)
3. Re: Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items
(pming at northwestel.net)
4. Re: Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items (TNT)
5. Re: Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items (Scott Adams)
6. Re: Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items (Alex Koponen)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:28:28 +0200
From: Wout Broere <broere at powersandperils.org>
To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List <pnp at list.powersandperils.org>
Subject: [PnP] Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic Items
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I cannot find where I saw in my
books
how to determine the value of magical items. I have
the
article on values of Natural Magic items, but I know
that
MEL & EL must have a role in value of other
items.
I just got a Healing talisman and a
wand in my
game, and this particular group has no magicians
(they are
scholars), so need to know what to record for my
novelization of this adventure, when they find an elf
or
magician to help them determine alignment and value
(I know,
as creator, but they don't)
Thanks for any help. I have books 1-4
and the
Book of Tables. My books have a 1983 copyright w/ a
1/84 on
the bottom left back page corner, and the Tables are
copyrighted 1984 w/ an 11/ 84 in lower left corner of
back
cover. (Are these the older books or the
newer?)
Thanks again for your help, (hope I
didn't
mispell too musch - my typing not as great as my
spelling)
Bess L. Hadley
[Forwarded on behalf of Bess L. Hadley, Wout]
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:50:46 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: " Thomas O. Magann Jr." <tmagann at earthlink.net>
To: Bessie Hadley <eleabess at sbcglobal.net>,
The Powers and Perils
Mailing List <pnp at list.powersandperils.org>,
The Powers and Perils
Mailing List <pnp at list.powersandperils.org>
Subject: Re: [PnP] Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items
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Healing Talismans and Wands are not Natural magic items.
Permanent Magics and in Book 2, and section 2.263 of book 4
describe created items such as these, and how to determine
mel and el of made or found items.
For actual Natural Items, many 't need a mel or el, others
come with it predetermined in the description.
On the other hand, if you're just looking to have stats for
resisting Dispel, the mel of the caster, and el of his or
her enhancement spell (the one that enhanced the material in
the first place) would apply.
But, really, for *Natural* magic items, Resisting Dispel is
the only reason el or el would have to be determined beyond
what is listed int he items description
-----Original Message-----
>From: Wout Broere <broere at powersandperils.org>
>Sent: Oct 13, 2015 9:28 AM
>To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List <pnp at list.powersandperils.org>
>Subject: [PnP] Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items
>
> I cannot find where I saw in
my books
> how to determine the value of magical items. I
have the
> article on values of Natural Magic items, but I
know that
> MEL & EL must have a role in value of other
items.
> I just got a Healing talisman and a
wand in my
> game, and this particular group has no magicians
(they are
> scholars), so need to know what to record for my
> novelization of this adventure, when they find an
elf or
> magician to help them determine alignment and
value (I know,
> as creator, but they don't)
> Thanks for any help. I have books
1-4 and the
> Book of Tables. My books have a 1983 copyright w/
a 1/84 on
> the bottom left back page corner, and the Tables
are
> copyrighted 1984 w/ an 11/ 84 in lower left
corner of back
> cover. (Are these the older books or the
newer?)
> Thanks again for your help, (hope I
didn't
> mispell too musch - my typing not as great as my
spelling)
> Bess L. Hadley
>
>
>[Forwarded on behalf of Bess L. Hadley, Wout]
>
>
>
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>pnp mailing list
>pnp at list.powersandperils.org
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Message: 3
Date: 13 Oct 2015 10:43:34 -0700
From: pming at northwestel.net
To: pnp at list.powersandperils.org
Subject: Re: [PnP] Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items
Message-ID: <20151013104334.45473E28E328CADC at northwestel.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hiya!
I don't remember seeing it... and I've been playing P&P
since it
came out in '83. Of course, that game sill surprises me with
stuff I didn't know or *thought* I knew, so...who knows? ;)
The closest I can think of is under Equipment.
There's a a
secion for buying magic items (potions, swords, etc). Maybe
that's what you are thinking about?
I'm just getting started to launch another P&P
campaign, so
maybe I'll find it. If I do, I'll be sure to post book and
page
number for you. :)
^_^
Paul L. Ming
***** ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS *****
Healing Talismans and Wands are not Natural magic items.
Permanent Magics and in Book 2, and section 2.263 of book 4
describe created items such as these, and how to determine
mel
and el of made or found items.
For actual Natural Items, many 't need a mel or el, others
come
with it predetermined in the description.
On the other hand, if you're just looking to have stats for
resisting Dispel, the mel of the caster, and el of his or
her
enhancement spell (the one that enhanced the material in the
first place) would apply.
But, really, for *Natural* magic items, Resisting Dispel is
the
only reason el or el would have to be determined beyond what
is
listed int he items description
-----Original Message-----
>From: Wout Broere <broere at powersandperils.org>
>Sent: Oct 13, 2015 9:28 AM
>To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List
<pnp at list.powersandperils.org>
>Subject: [PnP] Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items
>
> I cannot find where I saw in
my books
> how to determine the value of magical items. I
have the
> article on values of Natural Magic items, but I
know that
> MEL & EL must have a role in value of other
items.
> I just got a Healing talisman and a
wand in my
> game, and this particular group has no magicians
(they are
> scholars), so need to know what to record for my
> novelization of this adventure, when they find an
elf or
> magician to help them determine alignment and
value (I know,
> as creator, but they don't)
> Thanks for any help. I have books
1-4 and the
> Book of Tables. My books have a 1983 copyright w/
a 1/84 on
> the bottom left back page corner, and the Tables
are
> copyrighted 1984 w/ an 11/ 84 in lower left
corner of back
> cover. (Are these the older books or the
newer?)
> Thanks again for your help, (hope I
didn't
> mispell too musch - my typing not as great as my
spelling)
> Bess L. Hadley
>
>
>[Forwarded on behalf of Bess L. Hadley, Wout]
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:55:09 +0200
From: "TNT" <tanghet at skynet.be>
To: "'Bessie Hadley'" <eleabess at sbcglobal.net>,
"'The Powers and
Perils Mailing List'" <pnp at list.powersandperils.org>
Subject: Re: [PnP] Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items
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Would you like to have my own formula from my own version of
PP ?
-----Message d'origine-----
De?: pnp [mailto:pnp-bounces at list.powersandperils.org]
De la part de Wout
Broere
Envoy??: mardi 13 octobre 2015 18:28
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Objet?: [PnP] Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic Items
I cannot find where I saw in my
books
how to determine the value of magical items. I have
the
article on values of Natural Magic items, but I know
that
MEL & EL must have a role in value of other
items.
I just got a Healing talisman and a
wand in my
game, and this particular group has no magicians
(they are
scholars), so need to know what to record for my
novelization of this adventure, when they find an elf
or
magician to help them determine alignment and value
(I know,
as creator, but they don't)
Thanks for any help. I have books 1-4
and the
Book of Tables. My books have a 1983 copyright w/ a
1/84 on
the bottom left back page corner, and the Tables are
copyrighted 1984 w/ an 11/ 84 in lower left corner of
back
cover. (Are these the older books or the
newer?)
Thanks again for your help, (hope I
didn't
mispell too musch - my typing not as great as my
spelling)
Bess L. Hadley
[Forwarded on behalf of Bess L. Hadley, Wout]
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:58:06 -0400
From: Scott Adams <longshotgm at comcast.net>
To: Bessie Hadley <eleabess at sbcglobal.net>,
The Powers and Perils
Mailing List <pnp at list.powersandperils.org>
Subject: Re: [PnP] Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items
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One of the Errata Docments.
http://www.powersandperils.org/errata.htm#Magic
That what your looking for?
At 12:28 PM 10/13/2015, you wrote:
> I cannot find where I saw in
my books
> how to determine the value of magical items. I
have the
> article on values of Natural Magic items, but I
know that
> MEL & EL must have a role in value of other
items.
> I just got a Healing talisman and a
wand in my
> game, and this particular group has no magicians
(they are
> scholars), so need to know what to record for my
> novelization of this adventure, when they find an
elf or
> magician to help them determine alignment and
value (I know,
> as creator, but they don't)
> Thanks for any help. I have books
1-4 and the
> Book of Tables. My books have a 1983 copyright w/
a 1/84 on
> the bottom left back page corner, and the Tables
are
> copyrighted 1984 w/ an 11/ 84 in lower left
corner of back
> cover. (Are these the older books or the
newer?)
> Thanks again for your help, (hope I
didn't
> mispell too musch - my typing not as great as my
spelling)
> Bess L. Hadley
>
>
>[Forwarded on behalf of Bess L. Hadley, Wout]
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>pnp mailing list
>pnp at list.powersandperils.org
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:11:37 -0800
From: Alex Koponen <akoponen at mosquitonet.com>
To: pnp at list.powersandperils.org
Subject: Re: [PnP] Question on MEL/EL of Natural Magic
Items
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format=flowed
P.46 of the Book of Tables shows how to find the value of
magic items,
including Natural Magic Items.
Alex K
On 10/13/2015 8:28 AM, Wout Broere wrote:
> I cannot find where I saw in
my books
> how to determine the value of magical items. I
have the
> article on values of Natural Magic items, but I
know that
> MEL & EL must have a role in value of other
items.
> I just got a Healing talisman and a
wand in my
> game, and this particular group has no magicians
(they are
> scholars), so need to know what to record for my
> novelization of this adventure, when they find an
elf or
> magician to help them determine alignment and
value (I know,
> as creator, but they don't)
> Thanks for any help. I have books
1-4 and the
> Book of Tables. My books have a 1983 copyright w/
a 1/84 on
> the bottom left back page corner, and the Tables
are
> copyrighted 1984 w/ an 11/ 84 in lower left
corner of back
> cover. (Are these the older books or the
newer?)
> Thanks again for your help, (hope I
didn't
> mispell too musch - my typing not as great as my
spelling)
> Bess L. Hadley
>
>
> [Forwarded on behalf of Bess L. Hadley, Wout]
>
>
>
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