[PnP] WEapon Courses

[Wout Broere]

My take has always been that

1) the general rule holds that you first learn a weapon course (e.g. 
heavy swords) and gain ALL weapons in that class at EL0. This costs the 
Cost to Learn. (25 expertise in this case.)
2) After that each weapon is advanced individually, see per EL 
increase/cost NEL (NEL x 7)

Dagger, Spear and Throwing Axe are special in that they differentiate 
between fighting and throwing.

3) Learn Dagger - Fight and you gain the skill to fight with all dagger 
types (Fighting Dagger, Throwing Dagger) at EL0. This only covers 
fighting, not throwing
4) Learn Dagger - Throw and gain the skill to throw all dagger types 
(again Fighting Dagger, Throwing Dagger) at EL0. Increase skill to 
'Throw a Fighting Dagger' and skill to 'Throw a Throwing Dagger' 
separately after that.


Someone may want to learn to throw fighting daggers, and the rules allow 
that. They are just not as good thrown as throwing daggers are. And 
throwing daggers are not as good to fight with.

Wout

On 02-11-16 20:09, Scott Adams wrote:
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>   It is fascinating to see the game from a new player today.
>   I have 2 new players (3rd on way). One who works with me
>   is brand new to game very new.  So i had to write up
>   primers and such for him.  The second has played but
>   has gotten confused on skills.  I don't blame him now
>   that I look at it.  SKills are so second nature to me
>   after 30 years i even forgot this stuff.
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>   Weapon Courses
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>     The game lists these weapon courses..
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> Weapon Skills
>      Weapon skill is initially gained in a specific Weapon Type. The
>      starting EL, unless a Special event specifies otherwise, is ZERO.
>      The basic courses that can be learned are listed in the table.
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> Weapon Courses               Course Weapons
> Axe                      Throwing Axe*, Hand Axe, Axe and Battle Axe
> Bow                      Bow, Composite Bow, Longbow
> Crossbow                 Light and Heavy Crossbow, Arbalest
> Dagger                   Throwing Dagger, Fighting Dagger
> Heavy Lance              Heavy Lance
> Heavy Sword              Broadsword, Bastard Sword, Great Sword
> Light Lance              Lance**
> Mace                     Club, Mace, Flail, Hammer, Sap
> Miscellaneous Throwing   Rocks, Bottles, Chairs, Shuriken, etc.
> Polearms                 Halberd, Poleaxe, Glaive
> Repeating Crossbow       Repeating Crossbow
> Scimitar                 Scimitar, Tulwar
> Spear                    Spear, Javelin, Pike
> Sling                    Sling, Handle Sling
> Sword                    Sword, Short Sword***
> Throwing Axe             Throwing Axe
> War Staff                War Staff, any pole of usable dimensions
> Whip                     Whips of varying lengths
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>         Now his confusion was on Dagger.  Why there are Fight
>         and Thow at 2 costs.  So to the new player I can
>         see his issue.
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>         First to him he was looking for Course Cost to Learns.
>         Had to explain that's the basic Skill Cost.
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>         Second had to explain that more than likely Richard
>         goofed and placed Dagger and Spear wrong.
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>     So Buying Dagger -Fight doesn't as the courses imply give you
>     throw for free and vice versa.  So there is confusion there.
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>     Maybe we should have a FAQ for this stuff.  In today's
>     world we should have Youtube videos :)  But the most confused
>     part to me for new folks is Initial Increases.  I believe
>     this is on Wout's site.  But explaining that to a new person
>     is not as easy.
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>   So you guys think Richard goofed or did he intend to say buying
>   one dagger gives you second? :)
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