[PnP] pnp Digest, Vol 141, Issue 2 - re: Sire (giggle)

Paul Minz erc2pm at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 5 21:42:11 CEST 2017


P&P is only RPG we still play.   The fatal flaw is human males have a 25% chance to be a strong as Rock Trolls and not far off of Giants strength.    Human male is so overpowered compared to others.   They can easily be exceptional wizards with exceptional strength

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> On Sep 5, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Bessie Hadley <eleabess at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> So glad you noticed this - I always just stared at it and went "du-uh!" LOL. 
> 
> I approve of your change - not only more accurate, but very clear (although leaves either parent to being inimical, not just the sire, which still works for me)
> 
> 
> Bess L. Hadley 
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>    1. Re: pnp Digest, Vol 133,
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> From: Wout Broere <broere at powersandperils.org>
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> Subject: Re: [PnP] pnp Digest, Vol 133,
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> I have changed this to
> "Where the parent is inimical, the
> character is always sired by a 
> non-human father."
> 
> Found a few typo's/scan erros in the
> NMI section and have corrected 
> those. If anyone else has textual
> chnges/corrections, please let me know.
> 
> Wout
> 
> On 29-11-16 22:35, Bessie Hadley
> wrote:
>> "Where a Sire is inimical, the
> father is always the Sire." Sire means "father, or male
> parent." Can that be made less awkward, or maybe we need to
> rephrase it another way - gave me a double-take & a
> giggle (tch, tch). Thanks for the information anyway.
>> 
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>> Bess L. Hadley
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>>       1. Half Breeds
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>>    From: Scott Adams <longshotgm at comcast.net>
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>>    Subject: [PnP] Half Breeds
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>>    Ok guys.  Richard is
> our God and never makes no
>>    mistakes.  Its lowly
>>    humans who mis read and
> interpret these wonderful world of
>>    P&P.
>>    
>>    First I've been making
> great progress on my ship project
>>    after years
>>    of idle time.  i've
> cut down the data to half.  A
>>    big step. :)  More
>>    work I've done this last
> couple months in years.
>>    
>>    Second I'm also in my spare
> time (hour there and here)
>>    working on
>>    a pc generator.  I did
> one years ago but its outdated.
>>    
>>    I've come up with this
> confusing thing...half breeds.
>>    We may dislike
>>    them and think it
> stupid.  But we still need to figure
>>    it out.
>>    
>>    Recap: Normally we are
> Human, Dwarf, Elf, Faerry.
>>    
>>    So heres the rule:
>>    
>>    HALFBREEDS (OPTIONAL)
>>    
>>       There are
> other races that can have viable
>>    offspring with
>>       humans. The
> result of such unions is
>>    halfbreed characters
>>       that may share
> some or all of the talents
>>    of their non-human
>>       sire. If the
> race is beneficent, the
>>    initial training of the
>>       character
> depends on the sex of his
>>    mother. If she is human,
>>       he is raised
> human. If not, he is raised
>>    non-human.
>>    
>>    ----
>>    Let's break that down.
>>      1.  First line
> other races with humans = half
>>    breed.
>>          So
> this means a rampaging goblin
>>    Human.  It doesn't
> mention
>>         
> Elf/Faerry.  (DWarves we learn
>>    later can't have half
> breeds).
>>      2.  So next big
> part is share genetics from non
>>    human (X) and Human
>>          again
> restricting it to Human only.
>>    ------
>>    
>>    Where the sire is inimical,
> the sire is always the father.
>>    In most
>>    cases, the mother dies
> giving birth to him and he is
>>    fostered to
>>    another human family. No
> other possibility leaves a
>>    character extant
>>    to be played.
>>    
>>    -----
>>    Last line could be seen
> differently as your either a half
>>    human or
>>    nothing else.
>>    
>>    ------
>>    NOTE - I only mention those
> races whose breeding with humans
>>    can
>>    possibly yield a playable
> character. Among those I omit are
>>    the
>>    children of daivas, drugas
> and high caste Korchi. The first
>>    two
>>    are automatically daivas or
> drugas. The last is rarely found
>>    outside
>>    Korchi territory (unless
> conquering someone).
>>    ----
>>    So richard seems to imply
> that his chart below is only for
>>    human and
>>    X mixes.  So again
> this implies no Elf/Faerry.
>>    
>>    ------
>>    BEING A HALFBREED
>>        Because
> Characters are exceptional
>>    members of their
>>          
>   race a player who
>>    wishes to try for this
> attribute has
>>          
>   a 10% chance of
>>    having a halfbreed
> character UNLESS his
>>          
>   character is a Dwarf.
>>    There are no Dwarf
> halfbreeds.
>>        If the
> Character is a halfbreed the
>>    Referee may assign
>>          
>   the non-human parent
>>    based on where the campaign
> is
>>          
>   starting. If he does
>>    not choose to do so, roll
> on the
>>          
>   Breeding Races table.
>>    Once the race is
> determined, roll
>>          
>   1D2 for the non-human
>>    parents sex if necessary.
> The
>>          
>    parent's sex will affect
>>    the Character's starting
>>          
>    knowledge and other
>>    factors.
>>    -------
>>    So we see here Dwarves
> can't be half breeds.  Yet we
>>    read above it
>>    implies that only humans
> can be such? Huh?
>>    So Ref can figure out non
> human parent implying possible
>>    Elf/Faerry?
>>    Then h ementions the d2 for
> non human parent which brings us
>>    back to
>>    one must be human.
>>    
>>    -----
>>    BREEDING RACES (Roll D100)
>>    ROLL   RACE
>>    ROLL   RACE
>>       ROLL 
> RACE
>>    01     Alfar
>>       24-30 
> Nymph
>>    76-79 Trazire
>>    02+03  Incubus* 
>     31-35
>>    Faerry     80-82
> Sernemu
>>    04+05 
> Pseudothei*   36-42
>>    Jinn      
> 83-86 Devil*
>>    06+07  Anwora*
>>       43-48 
> Demon*
>>       87-90 Whisper
>>    08-10  Daoine Sidhe*
> 49-55  Elf
>>        91-93
> Seirim*
>>    11-13  Vily
>>    56-58  True Sidhe
> 94+95 Lunafey
>>    14-16  Troll* 
>       59-64
>>    Nar'morel  96+97 Eld
> Troll*
>>    17-20  Baobhan
>>       65-67 
> Romati
>>       98+99 Fusin
>>    21-23  Mir
>>       68-75 
> Goblin*
>>    100   Green Lady
>>    
>>    ----
>>    So I see Flf in table.
> Human/Elf fine.
>>    But why not a Elf-Vily?
>>    
>>    -----
>>    * These races are always
> the FATHER in the union. In some
>>    cases this
>>    is because only males
> exist. For others, the child with that
>>    race as
>>    mother does not yield a
> playable character.
>>    
>>    
>>        So....
>>    
>>        Are there
> Human / X Half breeds only?
>>    
>>        Why does he
> say no Half-Dwarves if its only
>>    humans?
>>    
>>        That would
> imply a Elf / X or Faerry / X
>>    
>>        If that Dwarf
> wasn't there I'd say its only
>>    Human / X.
>>        But that also
> seems unfair.  Why can't a
>>    Elf and Demon
>>        mix?
>>    
>>        Wout seems to
> agree with me that the wording
>>    needs work.
>>    
>>        How do you
> follow these rules.  Thanks!
>>    
>>        So I can code
> it. :)
>>    
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